Money buys security, it buys experiences, it buys fun, it buys indulgence without consequence, it buys time.
You can meet the love of you life, a lovely woman with a homely face... then overhaul her.
It's simple. Money can't buy love, but it can make it.
Then again, you can be happy without money. Ie. I wouldn't be happy in a mansion.... I'd be happy in a small cottage style house. I also wonder if maybe the homeless might be very happy, and often I find myself wanting that freedom from stuff and things.
That is all you know. And yet you threw around a whole bunch of accusations at me.
I resented that. I'm sorry for calling you names, but I felt attacked by nonsense. It infuriates me to have to waste my time knowing I'm not going to change my mind, and you're not going to change your mind. So why the fuck don't we both shut up?
You can't blame a child for their mother's actions.
I conceded that someone is innocent until proven guilty. That's why he was found innocent, because they could not prove him guilty in the courts. That doesn't make it true.
Our opinion differs, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. And now we may never know.
But don't think I'm blind. I didn't read the tabloids or watch the trial. I didn't think he was amazing or a genius or an icon either. I judged him as a man and found him to be a psycho. That doesn't make me blind.
Obviously.
But you've insulted me quite a lot. I've been having to defend my opinion with facts, while you with opinions and I resent your intollerance. You insulted my opinion based on a bullshit websites and no actual knowledge of situations at organic free range farms. When I grew up on one and worked for years to stop factory farming. So bascally all you have is your opinion which you used to label me as a user and as a whole bunch of nasty things.
That is certainly not what you've been saying.
When I said, "If your opinion differs, that's fine. But I love and respect animals."
You said, "That's just a difference of opinions.
I am an abolitionist. I am against the use of animals, both human and non-human. I campaign for equal rights and compassion for all sentient creatures. That's how I'm different."
Thinking you're all holier than thou. Shove it.
How is everything you just said not speculation?
He had books of photographs of nude young boys. Art or not. You seemed to miss that scrap of information.
They have an entire taped tour of his mansion. You can see the secret rooms full of ridiculous stuff. I know he did it. More than a few times.
I'm not celebrating his death. But if I were molested by someone, I'd be glad they were dead. So I'm happy for his victims.
Do I not write English????
I already explained that the jury has to abide by the laws of the court. They could only go off of certain evidence. Had i been on the jury I might of had to find him innocent based of the presented evidence. But as a person seeing all of the evidence out there, and the things he's said, I'm able to arrive at my own opinion.
Plus, I said his music doesn't forgive his molestation. Not that his music wasn't good or that he wasn't an icon. But I will never hear his music again without being reminded that he was sick, and didn't get help.
He could have gotten therapy, as all child molesters should. But he didn't. He didn't think it was a problem.
I think that you're having been molested so much makes it difficult. This is just a theory, I'm not a psychologist and I don't mean to impose on you, but you may be identifying that it's "normal" or "okay." But it isn't. Anyone who molests a child should be put to justice and through therapy or in a support group.
...It's nothing personal if the person didn't do anything to you specifically....
I'm sorry, but I fight for the rights of children to grow up without being molested. If you think it's okay to let a molester get away with it because it wasn't done to "you specifically" then there would be a whole bunch of serial molesters still out there.
I don't like Nancy Grace as a person... but what she does is important. And what prosecutors do in the name of children's rights is important.
I don't forgive molestation, and I don't believe anyone should. I'm sorry that you as a molested person don't feel the same way.
I couldn't find specific statistics either, but I don't believe yours at the moment. Please let me know if you find something solid, I'm very interested.
This study shows that 4.8% of males were molested, and 7.7% of females. That's 1 in 20 males, and 1 in 11 or 12 females. This study is probably skewed, because it would be mostly upper or middle class kids in a college population.
It's not being anal. It's being correct. You put in quotes and italics. You acted as if I had used the word certainty. Where did you get that word? If not the film about the topic of child molestation in the same light, that used that word quite famously.
With the information I have at my disposal, yes, I am certain.
You did put words in my mouth. You just put the word certainty in my mouth, and I never used the word "certainty". That slip makes me think you're only doubting me because you might have watched the movie Doubt, and now you might think this is the same situation. If that's the case, it isn't the same situation and you need to check yourself.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/
You just don't have all that stuff, and the accusations, without something nasty going on. No sane person does that! It's wrong and sick. That's how I know he did it. If you'd like to come up with anything that says that crap was planted, or something else, I might be able to change my mind. But he was a whack job child molester as my opinion stands today. Nothing I have seen has said otherwise.
Again, I don't want anyone to be a pedophile. Of corse I wish he was innocent. His creep factor is a big deal. It's the creepy things he said and did with children in broad daylight, along with accusations brought on by the now older children that are what I call creepy.
And again, you continue to tell me what I believe, which is false. I have asked before, and I will ask again for you to not do that. My opinion is not based on a disbelief in the court system. Yes, the courts make mistakes. I believe that juries have far less evidence than is actually available. They are bound to make decisions only on evidence brought to them in the trial. If I had been a jury member I might of had to find him innocent based on that evidence alone. But I wasn't. I can base my opinion on the things I know to be true. That includes things not presented in court. Like what he said about how beautiful it is to tale children to bed with you, the secret doors to rooms that seemed to be set up to molest boys, the testemony of the families and boys who were traumatized by him. I believe them. I feel for them. And now I'm glad for them that he is dead.
Courts have to abide by certain rules. Innocent until prooven guilty. That keeps us protected from false imprisonment. But it also keeps a lot of criminals free too. I think that was the case with Michael Jackson.
If you reply to this, do not misinterpret my words for your own benefit. I won't take it anymore. And also, when you accused me of it, I had simple states that charity does not forgive pedophilia, not that you had said that.
Do you always trust a courts findings? Are
Juryies and judges always right? In my opinion, they make mistakes.
It's intuition. I have a right to an opinion that differs from from yours. We all have access to them same information on a lot of issues. There is enough evidence out there for me to know that he did it.
"Speculation" is just a negative word that you are using to make it seem like none of the evidence is of value because the court found him innocent. Well the "Speculation" I go off is the nasty stuff that he has said, and the creepy things he does. You can convict others with less than we had on him.
And no, you could convince me he didn't do it. If you had proof. But no one has proof either way. Most of the evidence was testemony. I can make my own opionion based off of that, and more than that. And based off everything I know, I know he did it.
No matter how much good you do, you can always do more. Any money towards a castle could have gone towards helping indigent children or others.
And PS, Charity doesn't forgive child molestation, nothing does.
For you, the fact that he had enough money to get away with it, is enough proof.
That's not what I said at all. I'm saying that in his particular situation, his money and fame worked in his favor.
My opinions are based on what he has said, and what vibes he gave off. He fit the profile of a serial molester. He was creepy, and had the opportunities.
I know he did it.
So basically, whatever the facts, you WANT him to be guilty regardless.
I don't want anyone to be a child molester. I just want those who are held accountable for it.
What is your's based on?
My opinion is based on his actions, and on the weird creepy things he has said about sleeping with children. You call it rumor, I call it victims speaking out for their rights not not be violated as children.
A recurring theme in your last argument was that you rephrased all of my arguments. Nothing you said I said or thought, was true. Please refrain from this practice in the future.
That's pretty selfish. You could do a lot of good with that money, too. And yes, he had enough money to get away with molesting children quite a few times. He had enough money to lure them there, to abuse them and their families. To cover it up. And to get away with it.
He molested children.
You have your opinion, and I have mine. There really isn't anything I can do to change yours, because obviously his music was so great it forgives pedophilia.
But, all in all, yesterday was a good day for his victims, and society.
I got 3 minutes into that before I tuned out. I'm actually pretty proud.
If a man has enough time to dress up, and make a you tube video about how angry he is that we accommodate the values that the country was founded on, then he should have enough time to do something constructive, instead. Like, iunno.
Volunteer to teach an ESL class to immigrants.
Being supportive and welcoming is always better than being a whiny bitch. Let them pay taxes, let them educate their children, let them thrive.
Maybe then we'll have enough workers to support social security and medicaid.
Duuuuhhhhhuuuhhhh!
That's why I specified local beekeepers, known as hobbyists. Commercial beekeeping is essentially factory farming. I have done nothing but denounce factory farming.
Who do you think the biggest opponents of commercial beekeping are? It's the hobbyists.
Also, I didn't say we should eat meat all the time and as much as we do. I've already stated it should be a side dish. If we reduced the intake of meat, we could support the entire world on a omnivore diet.
I don't advocate 5lb stakes with a side of stake. Just like a salad with two tablespoons of tuna made with hummus. Or a stir friend veggie plate and a half a breast of chicken. We eat too much meat for our own good right now, yes. But that doesn't mean we have to.
But those eggs that are unfertilized then go to waste.
Bees produce honey to feed off of during the winter. But they make much much more than they will ever need. They are also having a rough time right now, with everything that contributes to CCD. Because of hobbyist beekeepers honey bee populations are stabilizing on the west coast. And they are also placed in places that pollinate their environment so that plants can thrive too.
And while cows don't mind being milked, they might mind being mechanically raped to become impregnated so they'll begin to produce milk, then having their babies taken from them to go their separate ways (if they're female, they'll have the same fate as their mother; if they're male, they're turned into veal), then being hooked up to machines that cut their udders and fill the milk with blood and pus. And, actually, the US allows more pus in milk than any other nation, I believe.
That's factory farming, again. And organic, free range farming isn't bullshit. Cows don't have to be raped to get pregnant. They can also be milked by hand, and that's the kind of milking I was talking about.
And even in organic farms, yeah, we eat the males. It's for the good of the heard.
Animals, human and non-human, do not exist to serve others.
That sounds pretty selfish. We serve the animals. We care for calves abandoned by their mothers. We treat their wounds and illnesses. We find food for them in drought or flood. It sounds like you underestimate the value of teamwork.
Think of it as mutual earthling support.
Net fishing on the bottom can cause those kinds of problems. So eat Tuna. It's caught with mid level nets which don't do much damage. They're also not terribly endangered. Of course if everyone ate just tuna, they would be. But that's what diversity and choice is about.
Commercial fish farming is nothing like schools of fish. Nothing.
How so? Have you ever been to a commercial fish farm? Because that's almostexactly how it is. Sure, farmed fish don't swim as far as ocean or river fish, but I doubt they are uncomfortable. Yes, fish feel pain. But they're also stupid (in the scientific sense).
Think of the Africans who still live in small villages, and have never heard of cars or air conditioning. They're plenty happy. But you put some bitch from Malibu out there, and she's miserable. Fish are the bush people, we're the bitch from Malibu. (I'm not saying that the Africans are stupid, just "uneducated" by modern terms).
Can't you accept that my opinion is not wrong? That it's my opinion? Why does that make me delusional, or misled?
Right back at ya. You can have your opinion, and there is nothing wrong with being a vegetarian. If we were all vegetarians the environment would be better off. But there are also environmentally responsible ways to eat small portions of meat. And as omnivores we can decide for ourselves to eat meat or not.
The delusional part is that you believed that website about the free range farming. Which is a pile of bullshit, in my educated opinion. And also the part about "equality and peace and happiness." Death is part of life, and so is eating.
Most fish aren't caught on hooks, but in nets. And a quick smack to the brain does the trick. And regarding fish farming, they are just as overcrowded as they would be in a school of fish. It's how they swim... I doubt the fish mind.
You may accept being delusional, but just be careful about who you believe.... You'll figure it out someday.
I believe it's meaningful, sure. Just not equal.
As I said before, it really is the circle of life. Everyone dies somehow. We all become food for something. Whether that be microscopic or larger it doesn't matter to me.
In fact, eat me. I don't mind as long as I'm dead when it happens.
Yeah, that is pointless. Because in my last post I already told you:
I wouldn't kill someone to eat them.
For multiple reasons:
1) It's illegal.
2) I would be difficult and messy. Humans fight back, animals are easier to kill humanely.
3) There are plenty of people who die in car crashes and whatnot else to go around. I wouldn't need to kill someone to get my hand on a bit of meat.
I'm sorry for being rude, but it's frustrating when uneducated people try to assume they know everything.
No, it's not typical. But, as I said before, if people ate less meat and took an interest in where their meat comes from it could become typical. Which I do. I only buy meat when I know where it comes from. In fact I usually only eat fish from the local market where I can see the boat it was brought in on and know the fishermen.
But if all animals were raised and killed humanely, I bet you would still have a problem with it. Because you don't agree that Humans and animals aren't equal. That's fine. But that's delusional.
To be called a "bullshitting, angry little girl" is not why I'm here. That's enough.
I'm not trying to hurt your feelings or scare you or whatever, and I'm sorry that a went to that level. I'm just trying to shock some sense into you. It's not a perfect world and humans and animals aren't equal. If you want to spend your time trying to change something so widely accepted, fine. But you wont win. People like meat, they crave it.
But that website is the bullshit. The creators probably have good intentions, but they know the have to exaggerate to make a point, and that's what they've done. It's bullshit.
Because it's illegal. I've actually always wanted to try human. I wouldn't kill someone to eat them. But if someone died, why not?
After death, it's just a body. Just a lifeless pile of flesh. I assume that nutritionally, human meat would be fantastic like wild deer. I'd love to try a really well toned person's thigh. Maybe with an '07 Chardonnay.
I guess that's why I nibble on the gym rat boys I sleep with.
That is bullshit. I fought against factory farming for my entire middle school and high school career, when I was your age. I visited factory farms, and free range farms both. I grew up raising goats and chickens of my own, and named them all.
There is a difference between Free Range and Factory Farmed animals. And you're just a bullshitting, angry little girl if you let a fear-mongering website like that sway you.
Animals are not equal to humans. That is a foolish statement. Sure, animals love and care for each other. Animals feel pain and heartbreak. But animals are not humans.
That's my opinion. I'm sorry you're not on the same page as me. Better start reading.
You're not being rude, just silly. That list was a waste of your time. Humans are omnivores.
Humans: no sharp front teeth, with rear molars for grinding?
http://www.uic.edu/classes/orla/orla312/
We weren't created to do anything. We have simply, as of now, evolved to a point where we can eat both meat and plants. If you choose to not eat meat then that is fine.
I grew up on a farm where I cared for and loved every type of animal. And, at times, we ate them. Death is an aspect of life.
If your opinion differs, that's fine. But I love and respect animals. I'm not every religious, but whenever I pass road kill I say a little prayer that if the animal had any specific beliefs about their afterlife that it be realized. I think of animals as companions, friends and food. I'm sorry that you aren't on the same wavelength as me. But as long as an animal is treated well, killed humanely and respected then I don't have an issue eating their meat.
The goal of an immirant is to become a citizen. I was speaking of once they become citizens.
The only thing I disagree with is the idea that citizens should get preferencial treatment when applying for a job. I think the best candidet for the position should be hired.
