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Yes, it's morally wrong No, it's not morally wrong
Debate Score:77
Arguments:36
Total Votes:111
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Is it morally wrong to neuter or spay pets?

Yes, it's morally wrong

Side Score: 44
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No, it's not morally wrong

Side Score: 33
6 points

if you think this is not wrong. then your a person that want to take all male dog rights away and then fuck them in the face. because you have no feelings for dogs are anyone. and you should burn in hell. it is not right to neuter. how would you like that someone owns you and can do what ever they want with you. neutering is abuse and should against the law. spay I am all for that because we humans do it.

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
6 points

Neutering is wrong. People say if you do not neuter them they will have bad behaviors. No it not training them more that does. This what I got to say to people that neuter there dog just because there to lazy or do not have the time. If you do not have the time to train them then you don't have the time to own them. Spaying is okay I am all for that. To help stopping the overpopulation. But neutering is not the way to go. You would not do it to your sell or do it to other human. Do not do it to the dog. Would you like being hold down and get your right taken away. Men go to work and get to go home to the he loves. Dog go's to work and get hold down and get there male hood taken away. Some people say will he lucky that I save him. Thank you for saving me but that does not mean I give you the right to take my right away. I take 10 minutes to watch my dog outside. If you can't do that than you should not own a dog. It not right for him to lose his stuff but you get to keep yours.

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
4 points

Not only is it morally wrong to do this, it's more wrong to own pets.

People justify snipping their pet's nuts by saying "we're controlling the pet population" and they justify owning a pet by stating how they wouldn't be able to survive in the wild.

That's balderdash, wolves, are dogs before they were bred to be pets. Wolves survive in the wild just fine by them selves, and they keep their population low enough by natural selection.

Cats, birds, dogs, and whatever pet you own, a species of it exists in the wild, they live, they eat, they die, and if we do nothing about it they manage to keep their populations large enough to survive, without anyone feeding them or chopping their dicks' off.

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
4 points

In fact it is. If you think about it. yes neutering does let them live a longer life and reduce some diseases. but they would not have a happy life plus neutering can also increase other disease. But till me what you would want a longer life or a happy life we all should know that we would want a happy life so would the dog and by neutering him it would be wrong. this neutering should be stoped. hate when I see a good dog get there stuff taken. it sad that people think neutering is not wrong

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
3 points

Yes, it is immoral to remove the reproductive organs of an animal. The single thing that is universal and fundamental to all life is its ability to reproduce and provide for the next generation. I find all arguments justifying the act simple contrivances that betray a deeply underlying selfishness on the part of humans who think they have a moral obligation to cut out genitalia.

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
Pineapple(1448) Disputed
3 points

Humans do not fix animals selfishly.

Animals are spayed because the pet population is so great that all of the animals cannot be cared for.

I don't know if you understand what actually happens when an animal is fixed, but the dog keeps his penis or her vagina. They can still have sex. They aren't mutilated, or harmed.

They certainly aren't concious of their balls to begin with, nor do they care that they are gone.

My dog had balls one day, then the next he had a big plastic cone. All he cared about was the cone and the fact that he had a home with a loving owner.

A lot of animals would have to go without homes and vet care and love of a human if it weren't for spaying and neutering.

It's what's morally right.

Side: No, it's not morally wrong
2 points

yes, it is a form of adverse selection.

The "responsible" owner who will spay or neuter purchases the best dogs, thus removing those desirable alleles from the gene pool.

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
Pineapple(1448) Disputed
1 point

"Best" is debateable.

People who purchase 6 or 7 thousand dollar dogs don't neuter them.

People who adopt dogs, do.

It's not so black and white. Money does not equal responsibility.

Side: No, it's not morally wrong
2 points

this is wrong why would you neuter. it not right. I would never neuter. spaying yes it ok there is noting wrong with spaying. if you did not neutering is wrong now you do. I know that I would not want to spend my life with out my stuff. there is no reason to neuter. if we spay in would be better. when I start my club it would be big and make neutering against the law.

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
2 points

dog is part of your family. so if you would not neuter son why would you neuter the dog is it because you don't have time to watch him outside will then you should not get a male dog. get a female spaying is ok. you know what the best thing to do is get a male and female but just spay the female that. how I got my dogs like there happy togther they both can have fun and not get puppies.

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
1 point

dog is part of your family. so if you would not neuter son why would you neuter the dog is it because you don't have time to watch him outside will then you should not get a male dog. get a female spaying is ok. you know what the best thing to do is get a male and female but just spay the female that. how I got my dogs like there happy togther they both can have fun and not get puppies.

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
1 point

dog is part of your family. so if you would not neuter son why would you neuter the dog is it because you don't have time to watch him outside will then you should not get a male dog. get a female spaying is ok. you know what the best thing to do is get a male and female but just spay the female that. how I got my dogs like there happy togther they both can have fun and not get puppies.

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong

It's not morally wrong but I wonder what animals would say to each other in the vet's waiting room if they could speak? Probably something like...

Three dogs are sitting in the waiting room at the vet's when they strike up a conversation.

The black Lab turns to the chocolate Lab and says, "So why are you here?"

The Chocolate Lab replies, "I'm a pisser. I piss on everything.. ..the sofa, the curtains, the cat, the kids. But the final straw was last night when I pissed in the middle of my owner's bed."

The black Lab says, "So what is the vet going to do?"

"Gonna cut my nuts off," comes the reply from the chocolate Lab. "They reckon it'll calm me down."

The black Lab then turns to the yellow lab and asks, "Why are you here?"

The yellow Lab says, "I'm a digger I dig under fences, dig up flowers and trees. I dig just for the hell of it. When I'm inside, I dig up the carpets. But I went over the line last night when I dug a great big hole in my owners couch."

"So what are they going to do to you?" the black Lab inquires.

"Looks like I'm losing my nuts too, the dejected yellow Lab says.

The yellow Lab then turns to the black Lab and asks, "Why are you here?"

"I'm a humper," the black Lab says. "I'll hump anything. I'll hump the cat, a pillow, the table, whatever. I want to hump everything I see. Yesterday, my owner had just got out of the shower and was bending down to dry her toes. I just couldn't help myself. I hopped on her back and started hammering away."

The yellow and chocolate Labs exchange a sad glance and says, "So, nuts off for you too, huh?

The black Lab says ...."No, I'm here to get my nails clipped." ;)

Side: No, it's not morally wrong

No, it's not morally wrong to neuter or spay dogs and cats. Every organization I can think of advises you do just that. The unwanted, uncared for population is so out of hand that we cannot afford not to neuter as a precaution to more unwanted pets.

Side: No, it's not morally wrong
indeed(72) Disputed
1 point

I disagree with the reasoning that it's not morally wrong "because every organization i can think of advises it" so therefore it must be ok. This is known as the bandwagon effect and is a slippery slope to build views of morality on.

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
JustIgnoreMe(3584) Clarified
1 point

I think they are referring to organizations that are experts in the field and that this is more of an appeal to authority than just an ad populum argument.

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
Mahollinder(893) Disputed
0 points

No, it's not morally wrong to neuter or spay dogs and cats. Every organization I can think of advises you do just that. The unwanted, uncared for population is so out of hand that we cannot afford not to neuter as a precaution to more unwanted pets.

China for dogs, huh?

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
0 points

China? I'm not getting your reference Mahollinder. I don't think the Chinese care as much about neutering as we do here and perhaps in other places.

Side: No, it's not morally wrong
0 points

I agree that it's not morally wrong to neuter or spay animals to control the pet population.

Side: No, it's not morally wrong
2 points

well if we didnt fix our pets we would have a much much larger animal overpopulation problem. Thats just the simple truth.

Side: No, it's not morally wrong
Igivefacts(64) Disputed
1 point

we can spay them but not neuter because that would be wrong

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
deeno007 Disputed
1 point

Norway doesn't spay/neuter their pets and they have no problem with overpopulation each owner is responsible for their own dog (more about it here: https://jennifermargulis.net/norwegians-believe-spaying-or-neutering- a-dog-is-cruel/) ) besides couldn't the exact same argument be made for humanity ? would you just say it's the "ethical choice" if an alien race came to our planet and cut off our genitals to stop overpopulation ?

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
2 points

No, it's morally wrong to adopt a pet and mistreat it and abuse it. It is also morally wrong to put these animals to death because people can't take care of them and leave them to starve. Why bring new animals if they are going to get abused. Also, stray animals have diseases and rabies can kill your child. Keep these pets under control.

Side: No, it's not morally wrong

No, it's morally wrong to breed your animals (un/intentionally), bringing more unwanted animals into a world that is already overflowing with them.

(Bear in mind that I find this also to be greatly true for human animals as well as non-human animals.)

Side: No, it's not morally wrong
Skeptic(2) Disputed
1 point

But animals have no choice in the matter.

Would you cut your own son's genitals off to prevent human overpopulation?

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong
1 point

It is not morally wrong to spay and neuter your pets. What's morally wrong is to let animal populations rise out of control. It's morally wrong to let animals live sad lives of starvation and disease. We domesticated these animals and now it is our responsibility to make sure they are taken care of.

Side: No, it's not morally wrong
deeno007 Disputed
1 point

norway has no such problems and they don't spay/neuter their animals on mass, https://jennifermargulis.net/norwegians-believe-spaying-or-neutering- a-dog-is-cruel/

also similar logic could be used against humans, if an alien race came and enslaved us would you be fine with them cutting of your genitalia for "your own good" ?

Side: Yes, it's morally wrong