So all in all, you liked the shout out because it gives you an opportunity to blame and laugh at republicans. And you know it. It's ammo for faggots all over again. A republican screwed up ALL ABORD! Once again, class act.
And you keep acting like Conservatives and Republicans are the exact same thing. Stop that.
I don't think he went into enough specific detail. He was very broad.
As for the shout out, that was disrespectfull and the guy apologized. I did think it was a little funny though. (:
Also funny is that the left suddenly wants everyone to respect the president. It was weird hearing David Letterman say "he's the president for crying out loud" think he would have said that if the same exact thing happened to Bush?
1. I still would like somebody to prove that the commercial is filled with lies.
2. The whole point is not the commercial but that the mainstream media is way to in love with Obama and you freaking know it.
3. Lets talk about that little rant you made to mock conservatives: All the right spews all day is "blah blah, socialist, blah blah, most liberal President ever, blah blah guns, blah blah, he wasn't born here"
You are putting all of that on an entire group of people? that's real nice. Blah blah guns? what does that have to do with anything? you don't like the right to bare arms? How about "he wasn't born here" I don't think that. I don't know anybody who thinks that. You are watching way to much crap. And your so right he's not a socialist, he's a fascist.
Let's just hope you where trying to be funny.
4. Obama is not center left.
5. and even Olbermann and Maddow have questioned this administration more in the short short time it's been in charge, than Faux dared question that draft dodging war criminal Bush in his entire 8 year fiasco.
They usually attack the "right" instead of praising the left, so maybe there's some room for that, I don't know. I usually try not to watch them.
6. There is nothing in the first amendment that says a privately owned news station has to air every piece of bs that comes across their desk.
I know that. I'm just criticizing that they only air left wing BS, that's lame and one sided.
7. I never said Fox News was perfect. You are not insulting me by insulting Fox. You seem to go at them pretty hard when debating me, I'm not sure why.
So before you stopped to think about freedom of speech or why it's stupid that we have entire TV stations that praise this Presidency no matter what it does. You rushed off to you tube to find something wrong with the video and say "good for them". All because you knew it was against a healthcare plan that you agree with.
Class act..
Well thanks for the two down votes. Original.
Anyways, Who says that video is not telling the truth?
There are a lot of lies about this bill going around. Are you going to blame us for not falling for them?
Well come on, theres a lot of lies going around about everything. Lets talk about the ad that was refused to be shown. If you where talking about that then the question you asked me is irrelevant. Unless you can prove it to be all lies.
Sorry this took so long, I never got around to it.
I wasn't trying to attack atheism. I'm just saying if I was an atheist and after death there was nothing, then yeah as long as I'm rich I'm good.
But I did fail to think about family, money can't keep a family together, or make someone truly love you. So I'm gonna change to no.
However I do hate in the movies when it's like "oh this rich person has it all but they can't be happy, better get that poor folksy guy to teach them a lesson". Disney crap.
In conclusion: profit is good, just not enough.
We would get a better set of people with no indoctrination.
And that's both sides. There is nothing wrong with representative democracy. It's just all the other crap that gets in the way.
We need to make sure everyone is well informed from a fair source. Also, no voter fraud.
Give people facts not opinion.
Guys this is common sense.
"Wow...okay last time I compared you to the KKK and you got upset"
The fact that I got upset is irrelevant. Do you admit that you where wrong?
Do you seriously think I am like the KKK?
Of course I'm going to get upset when you incorrectly judge me.
(:
"To argue that diversity is a weakness of America is to argue that the idea of America itself is a bad one."
It's not about immigrants it's about culture. He's not saying different types of immigrants is a problem. He's saying that America is better off with one culture and one language.
But put that through the liberal mind filter and you get a racist Nazi.
"He argues about language, but how often are you actually bothered by the fact that people speak other language?"
All the time!, some people that live here don't speak any English. That's a little inconvenient.
Some have English as their #2 language including some of my bosses. They speak whatever language at home then come to work and I can barely understand a freaking word. Thats not good, did you know that?
" In fact, do you know one of the reasons why our codes were unbreakable in WWII?"
Yeah, I did know. ..Thanks anyways. We don't need that anymore.
Statue of liberty? Yeah, once again this isn't about immigrants it's about culture. So that really is irrelevant.
I'm not racist and I don't want to have innocent people turtured and murdered. Please let go of the kkk/nazi argument it is so old. So please, quit, let go.
Copy and paste, guess you didn't see this:
Hey, instead of desputing this, just post on the other side!
I just put it here so that you could more easily see the video. Don't dispute me I haven't adden an argument! ..Killing me.
I say rebuild the twin towers just the way they where.
Or even taller, maybe a third tower just to piss the terrorists off.
I just don't like this crap.
No no, you interpreted correctly.
" It's a much much more complicated decision. "
That word I used ["inconvenience"] sounds frivolous but think about it, thats a pretty huge inconvienience. Parenting takes a lot of selflessness. And how can you do that if you haven't even tried being married yet!?
The "decision" should be made before conception.
" By your logic you can't criticize rapists. "
Because that's the same thing. Oh well, we can still lock them up. Just like you can continue to not watch FOX if you don't like it.
We have seen what rapists do to people. That is why we lock them up.
Yeah and I can already predict you response, "well, we have seen what fox news does to people". [You can correct me if that is not what you where going to say.] [yea right] If not, I can respond to my prediction. I can probably finish this whole little debate of ours by myself. [[:
Does anyone think it's funny that a debate about ACORN has turned into posts that have the tag: "O'Riley sucks".
" It's rude and bad journalism to not allow your guest to get their point across. "
His point: [and I quote] "You're just afraid of black people". (unless you don't believe the witnesses.)
Did you not watch thew whole video?
Race. It's like the liberal's last resort card. Any conservative who is winning an argument with a liberal is a racist, rude, or a bigot.
lulz the 1st definition has the word terrorism in it. Weak.
Anyways you are right in the classical sense of the word that was an act of terrorism. I have never heard of that case before. So if what you said is true that is terrorism.
But of course like a lot of other words we associate historical events and things in the media and the classical sense of the word is distorted.
So in conclusion, when I hear "terrorist" I think of the type of people that attacked us on 9/11.
But that doesn't mean my definition of the word is forgotten. I know that "terrorist" describes more than just them.
Well, firstly, David Letterman isn't funny anyways.
Any who, what if that was your sister or daughter who was being used to boost low ratings for a biased bitter and not funny comedian?
I'm not just saying this because I am a fan of Sarah Palin. I think about this all the time.
The thing is, there's no line. Mean spirited comedy is everywhere.
There should be a line. You don't think so? Put yourself in Mr. Palin's shoes. Would you not want to choke Letterman to death if he was making sex jokes that involved your daughter?!?!?
What pisses me off is that David Letterman would never say that about a democrat. If you gotta make a living at somebody else's expense, fine. Why target the same group every damn time!?
And if a republican performer said something like that about a democrats daughter the world would come to an end.
He's probably just pissed because Conan O'Brien's show [which is actually funny and entertaining] is destroying his show.
Nice little snippet. To be honest I'm not really sure what it means. I would however, like to hear the rest of it.
"I'm glad we agree that government should keep corporations in check."
Me too. At least we aren't blindly taking whatever shots we can and ignoring what we actually do agree on.
Anyways, if people are to sick to work then yeah, some government help is necessary.
But other than things like that, I don't see how poverty in a place like America can't be prevented.
" But I know for a fact that many people are not as generous as me. Apparently you disagree and think that everybody in the country will happily fork over their cash. "
So do you agree that we should be teaching young kids the value of hard work and encourage them to get a jobs and start saving money?
And I'm not naive, I know that a lot of people are not generous. But if we can convince people that profit is wrong maybe we can convince them that generosity is good. But that wouldn't give the government more power so it probably wont happen. Because why be generous if the government can take care of everything. Well they suck at it.
Why didn't you respond to the rest of what I said? I was actually interested to hear what you had to say.
" You think greedy exploitive people mainly exist in the movies? "
Well, don't get me wrong there are a lot of crooks out there. It's just that in the movies, the good guys are poor and the bad guys usually tent to be rich and greedy. [the two attributes cleverly paired together, see we are supposed to think they are the same thing] Profit is often associated with greed, and poverty is often associated with humility.
" Don't worry about bad people? What kind of bs is that? What kind of person turns a blind eye to injustice? "
I am not one to turn a blind eye to injustice. If you commit a crime you are guilty, hands down. Do you agree? Do you think it's okay to break the law as long as you disagree with it? Like smoking weed for example? Any kind of scandal or money laundering is of course wrong. Thats why we have law enforcement, so we don't need an angry mob of entitlement mongers. Just worry about yourself.
And since when is profit injustice?
[profit = crime? No.]
[hard work = profit = just]
" And how many times do I have to tell you that everyone in America is not going to willingly give up 20 to 30 percent of their income to the common good. It's just not going to happen. "
So we should force them to share because the government is the only one we can trust right? They are the only ones that can help. The main sorce of power should come from the government not the people. Right?
WRONG
Why are you not willing to share? [key word = "you"] The government should not be in the business of charity. You don't want that big of a government do you? Why the hell would you want that?
I don't know why you are tagged as "agree" you don't sound anything like Lincoln. ]:
" There are people out there who are willing to sacrifice all common decency in order to make as much money as they can. They will exploit the rest of us to further their own ends if government doesn't keep them in check. "
I think those people mainly exist in movies and television. But yes, there are bad people. Don't worry about them just work hard for yourself. There is plenty of room for success in america.
" people who can't work are the only ones who get government handouts. "
Looks like a lot of people can't work then. ....
" Are you seriously going to tell some old lady that she needs to suck it up and start pulling her weight? "
No! And I'm glad you asked. I (myself) would help her. I would choose to help her. I help old ladies from my church with stuff all the time. (yard work, etc.)
I will however, tell the government that it's not their job!
I agree 200%.
In psychology we learned about critical thinkers.
People that are interested in debate are 1. Critical thinkers 2. Internet troll 3. has to win an argument.
Any critical thinker above the age of like 14 or 15 is mature enough to vote but you gotta draw the line somewhere.
Absolutely I do.
Anybody that completely ignores science as a whole is retarded. And anyone who cherry picks scientific theories that back their opinion or make the life they want to live more convenient, without truly thinking about it are closed minded. But those people will never admit that they do that.
"Many people will behave selfishly if they can get away with it."
They have the freedom to. What's it to you?
"Do you honestly think everybody in America is going to voluntarily give up 20 or 30 percent of their income to charity?"
Don't worry about them. Do the best you can do. If everyone did that we wouldn't need charity.
Lets distribute opportunity, not wealth.
I think as long as it's a legitimate debate and not a discussion/poll, (which in my opinion are perfectly fine outside of certain groups.) and it doesn't deal with something frivolous, like how you pronounce "iced cream" like a debate I recently created then it is just fine for this group.
Only joking, I wouldn't mind giving away a kidney or a heart or something.
I always thought it would be cool to give my brain to science. And they could put it in a jar. Imagine all they could learn from my brain, because you know, I'm such a genius. [ ;
" wow, he could have be talking to GWB. "
That is partially true because Bush was doing a lot of the same things Obama is doing which isn't good. [not sure if he would still be doing it at this point]
You can't spend your way out of a recession. And WWII ended the GD.
" The problem is if the government doesn't help them, no one will. "
What a poor argument. So you admit hat you wouldn't help a friend or family member in need?
Are you saying that nobody ever has? Are you oblivious to charity?
" People born into poverty are much more likely to not graduate and therefore much more likely to stay in poverty, and this effect transcends to their kids. "
Likeliness doesn't matter, this is about opportunity, you can't force somebody to succeed. We can and should only give people opportunity.
How about this, how about we work to help those kids graduate let us, the people help them out. Again thats not the governments job.
" I'm not sure what your point is. "
Well then you really do have a led head.
" If we could take care of people in poverty, then why are government programs plus charity not even coming close to fixing the problem? "
Because the Democrats like to be in power and be as big as possible. And they suck at fixing peoples financial problems.
" They also thought it was okay to own human beings as property. Just because they believed in something doesn't make it right. "
Well in this case it does. Just because they owned slaves doesn't mean all of there ideas are bad. I hope you know that.
" Also progressivism in the modern sense did not even exist yet. "
Good times.
" Women make 75.5 cents for each dollar men make. "
Per job with an equal ratio of men to women? Or is that just as a whole?
"
"I can tell you that most do not discriminate. "
Thanks for your opinion. When you have actual data, I will respond to your claim."
What, do you disagree? If you do then I feel sorry for you.
" Fantastic support you have there. "
Yeah, it's called common sense you should try it.
Again do you disagree? You are not saying much just attacking the way I stated it.
Those scoallarships would be considered an outside intervention with the "cycle of poverty" wouldn't you say?
" This is the main problem. People born into poverty usually stay in it. Even with hard work. "
Yeah people need help. We already talked about this. Us, people, should help each other. We can do it better than the government can, that is why the founders created this country the way they did. It is not and should not be the governments place to pull people out of poverty!
The founding fathers where about as far away from progressive socialists as you can get. You do know that right?
Yes.
Yes. [although inheriting money makes it more difficult to learn the value of hard work]
Yes.
" You must understand that a purely capitalist system does not address any of these concerns. "
Yes.
Systems are "not the answer to everything". People are. Lets help each other out. Let us, the people, help our neighbors. We can do it better than the government can. Thats why the founders created this country the way they did.
"You also have to understand that capitalism rewards not just hard work but also greed."
I do understand that, I understand also that capitalism is not perfect or the "answer to everything".
One man's greed doesn't make it impossible for another to succeed. So while yes it may suck, it is still possible to succeed.
" Women and minorities statistically get paid less than white-males for the same work and experience. Due to discriminatory hiring practices they also have a much greater difficulty even getting jobs "
What about the statistics of jobs that don't discriminate vs those that do?
I do agree that discrimination and unequal opportunity is bad. If we get rid of those, which we are actually getting close, we will do just fine. But no matter what we do there will always be poverty. Because some people just don't want to work.
I can tell you that most do not discriminate. Some actually do the opposite and go out of there way to have a diverse group of people ignoring experience and capability.
Which I think is equally wrong because what we need is equal rights and opportunity for EVERYONE.
Don't forget about Education. Education plays a big role here. You know how many more scholarships there are for minorities, opposed to the amount for white males? Lets say somewhere around ... a lot.
Also, most of the top graduating students of my class where not white males. So if it makes you feel any better, I think they should be rewarded extra, for working their frickin tail off. I think you can agree.
Now about those people in high school that have to support their whole family. That is incredibly sad, and I have compassion for those people. I strongly believe that we the people, from the ground up, should help them. There are many many ways to do so without the government.
...... .. .. .. .
Did you not catch the last part?
What point where you trying to make? That the American dream is too difficult for non-white women?!
Of course it is difficult, people have came from NOTHING and still been successful because they learned from peoples mistakes. People that are afraid to work, people that cry about how they are not a white male, and that that is why they can't make it.
It's okay, you can make it. No, it wont be easy, suck it up and get to work.
"I know how awesome it is if you are a white upper-middle class male, but otherwise it is far more difficult."
When did I say it is easy? Did you not get the hard work part? Are you assuming that I am rich or something? That my parents are rich? That they have money to just give me so that I don't have to work?
Who the hell do you think you are? Because I am pretty sure that you are not. Even if you'd like to be.
I have to go to work almost every day to save money for collage. How do you know that my job is easy? How do you know how much money me and my parents have?
Do me and yourself a favor and say that you where not talking about me when you said that. Please tell me you weren't aiming that at me. Even if you have to lie. It's in your best interest if you don't want to be destroyed.
Even if you where not talking about me, that was a terribly stupid thing to say.
What point where you trying to make? That the American dream is too difficult for non-white women?!
Of course it is difficult, people have came from NOTHING and still been successful because they learned from peoples mistakes. People that are afraid to work, people that cry about how they are not a white male, and that that is why they can't make it.
It's okay, you can make it. No, it wont be easy, suck it up and get to work.
The Internet is one of the best ways to have fun and be educated at the same time.
For example, there is this way cool site called createdebate.com. You guys should check it out.
Yes you are correct, law is important. But when it comes to money, nobody should be forced to share.
"I guarantee all of these people who decry welfare and medicaid"
Who said anything about medicade?! Of course that is necessary. Not the same as welfare.
"were they ever in a position of need for these programs would be completely in favor of them."
Why would I allow myself to be in a position like that!? (again we are not talking about medicade)
I have a job, I'm saving money for college, I'm busting my rear to not be in that situation.
That is the important part, lets teach kids to take advantage of the country we live in.
Not to settle with failure and defend those that fail. Let us not hate monger and train them to hate the rich, to hate the successful.
That is simply un-American.
"Maybe conservatives are just those who were absent the day sharing was taught in kindergarten."
It's interesting that you bring up school.
Are grades based on sharing?
Conservatives are the ones who remembered how bad an 'F' felt and tried to work hard for that 'A'.
Others wanted the 'A' but just didn't wanna work hard. Claimed they couldn't work hard. Asked me to give them all the answers. I helped those kids study, maybe even shared school supplies, but I never gave them the answerers.
