I agree 100% with you. You've thought out all the best logical arguments to use against the constant screamers of society who want uncontrollable sex without a care of what it will bring upon people, especially the youth in schools who are being groomed into this immoral content. I understand completely of the points you lay out. The "gay community" just want special rights given to them but when it comes to disagreements, they want protection becuz the moral communities want nothing to do with "gay marriage". Yeah because it's wrong and if people own their own businesses, the govt should not impose nor force them to agree to allowing immorality to happen. God's Church will not support gay marriage and if the screamers cant handle it, they are free to leave. They have zero right to impose their hypocritical and immoral views onto us nor our children. The USA was also built on the foundations of religion too. America is God's promised lands.
Just because it's made legal by the Law of Man, doesn't make it right, smartass. Now crawl back to your hole and stay there until the Final Judgement. You are labelled as scum.
The fact that you want homosexuality to be legal with God will not work. Gay marriage doesn't exist as a moral stance of a functioning family structure.
So you are a Christophobe hm, andsoccer16? I happen to be a Christian and I do not fear you. I will say this, the LORD will put the wicked down, that includes people like you who hate on us believers, yet you claim to be righteous? Nay. You are a hypocrite and the abomination. You will face the Judgement of the LORD Himself.
1) Man+man is a marriage of equals. Ok. So what? It doesn't bring kids, it causes AIDS/HIV. Woman + woman = Hepatitis and other STIs/STDs. It is unnatural and not good for kids.
2) Marriage between a man and two women. That's a separate debate. - Nope. It's not allowed.
3) Marriage between a man and an android. That's a separate debate. - Nope, it's not allowed.
4) Marriage is not a right. Ok, but gay marriage still doesn't hurt anyone. Marriage is instituted by God so no it's not a right and gay marriage doesn't exist because it isn't a marriage, it's lustful intent to get what you want; uncontrollable sex and yes, it does hurt everybody; especially kids and plus abuse.
4) Marriage is not religious. Ok. So what? It is religiously affiliated and created by God. Your words are not law. God's laws overrules you and that is absolute.
5) Changing the meanings of important words can hurt. Ok. But changing the meaning of marriage to allow gays to marry doesn't hurt anyone. - You are a strawman and the weakest of all debaters. Changing the meaning of marriage? Oh so do you admit to changing the definition of marriage, liar? You are wrong and exposed, jessald. You've lost the debate.
I've seen your other so called arguments. It's nothing but bs and lies. You claim no one is changing the definition of marriage and yet, here you are, saying "Changing the meaning of marriage to allow gays to marry doesn't hurt anyone." - You are either repetitive becuz you know you lost or you are extremely stubborn and ignorant, and especially heterophobic, truthphobic and Christophobic. "Gay marriage" harms everyone; meaning families, friends and the entire human race. You, jessald, have lost. Cry me a river and get over it. You are also under arrest for being a possible contributor towards crime and pedophilia. Your sentence is life in prison.
@Redawn,
Latter-day Saints aka "Mormons" as outsiders label us, or simply, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints do not support polygamy anymore. It was banned in 1890. The only "Mormon" sect are the FLDS branch and they are not with the main branch of the Church. Yes, that is the small percentage who still wants polygamy back legally becuz they are used to it but no, it's not right. So yeah, FLDS are the polygamists who still practice it despite it being banned. I am "Mormon" and I don't support polygamy nor do I support "gay marriage". I am pro-heterosexual and pro-family. So logically, even us Latter-day Saints know, gay marriage is not contributive to society, it's not healthy and it's not good for the children of new generations. God the Father created marriage to be between a biological man and a biological woman. It is a gift that God the Father gave us in order to procreate and bring in new life. We must not use the gift of procreation for unnatural sexual behavior.
A recent Gallup poll finds that support for same-sex marriage has reached an all-time high. Currently, 70% of Americans say marriages between same-sex couples should be recognized by the law as valid, with the same rights as traditional marriages. The shift is primarily due to support by the younger generations: 84% of young adults, 72% of middle-aged adults, and 60% of older adults say they favor same-sex marriage.
A majority of Republicans (55%) and more than two-thirds of Democrats (83%) support the legal change. Surprisingly, despite same-sex marriage being one of the most radically progressive political changes in human history, almost half of self-identified conservatives (48%) now endorse this redefinition of marriage.
The poll doesn’t list the breakdown by religion, but it’s clear that many Christians now believe they too should support same-sex marriage. Here are four reasons why we should uphold a traditional understanding of marriage.
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1. Marriage matters to God
“Have you not read that He Who made them in the first place made them man and woman?” said Jesus, “It says, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will live with his wife. The two will become one.’ So they are no longer two but one. Let no man divide what God has put together” (Matt. 19:4-6).
Marriage was invented by God, not by man. We have neither the authority nor the ability to change what marriage is. The most that an individual or a government can do is misapply the term to relationships that are not actually marriages. Marriage requires the specific form of a union of man and woman (Gen. 2:24). Applying the term to same-sex unions, therefore, alters the very concept of what a marriage is for and what functions it takes.
Many people, including many Christians, think that objecting to same-sex marriage is imposing our moral beliefs on non-believers. In fact, the opposite is the case. It was advocates of same-sex marriage who imposed their view of sexuality on others by using the power of the state to enforce a criteria for marriage that is not rooted in the nature of marriage. In this way, they are similar to those who supported laws against interracial marriage. “Anti-miscegenation laws. . . were attempts to eradicate the legal status of real marriages by injecting a condition—sameness of race—that had no precedent in common law,” says philosopher Francis Beckwith. “For in the common law, a necessary condition for a legitimate marriage was male-female complementarity, a condition on which race has no bearing.”
Christians should oppose any attempt to add conditions to marriage that change God’s standards.
2. Reality matters to God
When we say that a man can be married to a man or that a woman can be married to a woman, we are twisting the word “married” to mean what it cannot mean. If we use words in this way, we are making a claim about reality that we know is not true — and cannot be made true. In other words, we are endorsing a lie.
The Bible makes it clear that God detest lying or speaking untruths (Prov. 12:12). As Leviticus 19:11 says, “‘Do not lie. Do not deceive one another.” For us to use language that we know is deceitful and untrue about an institution created by God is harmful to our neighbors. Words matter to God, so they must matter to us.
3. Scripture matters to God
As Paul told Timothy, “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work” (2 Tim. 3:16–17). From this and other passages, we derive the biblical doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture, that Scripture is sufficient in that it is the only inspired, inerrant, and therefore final authority for Christians for faith and godliness, with all other authorities being subservient to Scripture.
The Baptist theologian Matthew Barrett says that sufficiency has real and serious implications for the church today. “First, although Christians claim they believe in the sufficiency of Scripture, they often live like they don’t, prizing their experience instead of Scripture’s instruction,” adds Barrett. “In faith and practice, too many Christians nod at what the Bible says, but politely set it aside to live their life how they think or feel is best.”
Unfortunately, this is all too common when it comes to political and policy views. For many Christians in America, their secular political views — especially a left-libertarian view of sexuality and individual “rights” — informs their policy positions more than does the Bible. But Scripture matters to God and so it should matter to us.
4. People matter to God
As Christians, we are called to love our gay and lesbian neighbors (John 14:34), which is why we must not and cannot support same-sex marriage.
Christians believe that marriage is a lifelong institution designed by God for our good and the good of our society. We also believe that homosexual sexual activity is sinful. How then could we support two people entering into a lifelong commitment that encourages them to engage in sin (1 Cor. 6:9)?
For a Chrisitan to endorse same-sex marriage is the opposite of loving — it is truly hateful. You do not love your neighbor by encouraging them to engage in actions that invoke God’s wrath and oppose God’s good design for humanity (Psa. 5:4–5; Rom. 1:18). You cannot love your neighbor and encourage them to engage in activity that will lead them to hell.
While we may be required to accept the presence of ungodly behavior in our society, the moment we begin to endorse it we too become suppressors of the truth. We cannot love our neighbor and want to see them excluded from the kingdom of Christ (1 Cor. 6:9).
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Except that's the problem, Kuklapolitan. You are saying that little to nobody suffers from same sex parents. You know what? There are witnesses, especially youth and young adults who have given talks on how much they have suffered from the wrong kind of family structure. You're saying as long as what? As long as there are men and women around to look after the children, things will be okay? Uh no! Think about it. You cannot lie to your kids! Can an uncle be a boy or girl's father? No! You can't just do that! Otherwise the kids will learn how to lie too. You just admitted that it is easier to have one father and one mother around and guess what? You're contradicting yourself and your own arguments which means again, the logical side who says "gay marriage" affects everyone badly is none other than TRUE. There is no contributive positivity in having "two dads" nor "two moms", it will only bring a deceptive environment that will affect the kids to fall into confusion and the worst state of following a bad example! Marriage and true love remains only between a man and a woman.
Don't side with the homosexuals, joecavalry, who scream. Institutions and schools are indoctrinating kids into this whole "gay is right" sort of thing. There is no common sense in supporting it at all. Tell me, do you support the youth and future generations in suffering from AIDs/HIV? Or Hepatitis? Or STIs and STDs overall? I don't think you do!
That is not how this works.
"You just simply flip the gender of one of the participants" - Sounds like you are redefining marriage, disregarding the facts and whole purpose behind marriage; creating a family including children. "Gay marriage" does not exist and will never be seen as normal. You support rape? Because that's how it is in schools. They are brainwashing kids into thinking being gay is normal when it does not bring anything good. It doesn't bring kids, it doesn't bring fruitfulness nor reproductive contributions to society and it certainly isn't healthy due to STIs, STDs, HIV/AIDs etc. So yeah, cry me a river and get over it. Your arguments are invalid. May God have mercy on your soul. Sodom & Gomorrah were burnt down for a reason. God sent an angel to destroy the entire Assyrian army for a reason; because they wanted to convert the people in Jerusalem to a false religion.
Very good, nonostrum, on pointing out that interracial marriage has a historical reference and doesn't need a special opinion to legalize it. "Homosexual marriage?" though? Not normal, not natural, but very very harmful to kids and to individuals due to STIs, STDs, HIV/AIDs etc.
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I wish I had a gay dad
You remember when you were a child and everyone was always saying "my dad's gonna beat your dad?"
You could say "My dad's gonna do your dad, and your dad will like it!"
Did I just hear you rattle your own cage. Guards present! FIRE!
That's one less pedophile in existence. You are proof of a rapist. God will reign His Justice upon you. Your dad is not gay and my dad despises pedos like you.
Yeah it's already showing everywhere, tomdog. I agree with you. They indoctrinate kids, they have pride parades, they force businesses to be "inclusive" yet they are hypocritical when it comes to free speech, ESPCIALLY IN OPPOSING WHAT IS WRONG. We have the freedom to oppose the homosexual group of liars, adulterers and hypocrites who are also anti God.
Wrong. It brings AIDs/HIV, STIs/STDs and Hepatitis. It doesn't fair well for the children nor will it bring anything productive. Marriage and true love is only between a man and a woman. To support "gay marriage" is to support pedophilia, bestiality and also the extinction of the human race plus you also support the murder of babies aka abortion. All of which are evil immoral actions. Humans are already dying of old age, disease, drugs, crime and fighting in wars, "gay marriage" will only increase the death rate and it already has. The basis of marriage is to allow a man and a woman who love each other to continue the human race by creating new life. God gave us the tools of procreation.
