I would like abortions to stop. I would like for people to not have to make that choice, or to not make that choice. I personally wouldn't abort a child no matter what my circumstances. But I personally love children, and have a stable life. I couldn't speak for someone in another circumstance.
I don't believe that religious teachings belong in politics, and it's a religious belief that abortion is wrong. I'm not anti-religion. I'm anti-religious interference in political opinions that govern over non-religious persons.
It's that lack of religious influence that I believe makes democratic logic more sound.
"Democrats is that they are so ready to abort babies but won't execute guilty murderers or wage war against an evil nation."
Democrats aren't all like "Go abortion, do it!!!"
We just want to have the choice. Please stop saying that democrats want people to have abortions. That's false.
Also, what war? Oh... the one were finally buckling down on, and finishing?
Well this is a silly debate. This is really a question that someone should ask themselves introspectively.
But I am a Democrat, and feel that right now the Democratic party is more cohesive and unified than the Republican party. I also agree more with the Democratic ideals.
Duh.
Yeah, you can never justify your views, because they're based on biblical law that not everyone should have to abide by. But you do want to remove freedoms!
That 'fearmongering' is based on fact, and I think it's a message that needs to be spread.
The point is that I believe in global warming and in the pollution of the planet. And so being gluttonous with respect to resources is a 'sin' to me.
This isn't harmless, and the freedom to neglect our environment should be taken away.
Everyone knows it....
"See it's not so bad is it? (;"
It's great, but you don't paraphrase me correctly, so I had to ask you to quote me instead. If you didn't weaken or change my arguments while paraphrasing me, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
"I don't have a problem with recycling. What I do have a problem with is people saying that I have to recycle because I don't. And I shouldn't have to."
Why not? If you shouldn't have to be recycle, because this is such a free country, then I should be able to marry a woman. That's how you're being hypocritical.
"...Some way to dessolve or discentigrate it. So that we can just send it to the dump and they make it go away."
Well, they're working on it. But as of right now... the only economical way is to burn it, and what do you get when you burn anything? Ding.
But oh wait, you don't believe in global warming. So I guess it doesn't exist because you don't believe it. So yeah! Lets Burn it!!! Global Bon Fire?
Yeah, no... The only thing we can do right now, because we don't have that technology and there is no way that it would be economically possible to apply that technology to all the trash, we need to have as many people as possible working to conserve.
PS Your never answered leadheads question up there:
You never explained how you can justify removing freedoms that don't harm anyone, but allowing freedoms that do harm others.
Now a movie for the kiddies here.
I didn't like it when uneducated people Voted Bush into Office, but it happened.
The point is, Jake, that you do advocate to restrict the freedoms of a lot of people. But you turn a blind eye to those freedoms because you don't believe in them.
Basically what we're trying to help you understand is that you're being severely hypocritical by saying... and I paraphrase:
Gays can't get married, but you have the freedom to trash the planet because freedoms are important.
I just don't think it's realistic to think that we can get everyone to Reduce, Reuse and Recycle without some pretty strong incentives... and it's only logical that those incentives be fines.
Fines will help pay for the damage done, and encourage people to act more wisely.
But if you disagree, how would you propose that we go about it?
You want a break? What you need is a reality check. I'm calling a spade a spade. You need to hear it.
Having to decide what to do with the landfills is a direct result of people not recycling.
And do you know what we can do with the landfills?! Nothing but wait for those to decompose for years while you build more landfills. That doesn't sound like a solution to me at, just another big problem.
The answer here is mandatory Reducing, Reusing and Recycling.
How is that possible? How can you force people to recycle? What are you gunna give everyone a ticket if they don't recycle?, or if they leave their AC on!?
Yes, exactly.
At Ikea they charge for plastic bags, I love that idea. To conserve water in southern California they charge up the ass for going over your alloted amounts.
They even have people here who go through your recycling to make sure you're doing it properly.
You think the ocean is full of trash because consumers themselves put it there? That is soooo cute! And stupid, too. Your plastic bag finds it's way to the ocean.
You should encourage people to reduce their usage.
The phrase is Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. But in reality you need to reduce your usage. If you need to use something, reuse it as much as possible. And after all that, if you can't reuse it anymore... recycle it. It's not if than or or whatever.
Even if you don't litter, you're still filling landfills and the ocean with this excess garbage. It's still detrimental to the environment.
There is government needed. Because at this moment people are being encouraged to reduce, reuse and recycle and yet they don't.
I hate having to repeat myself, but you never listen so:
Regulations are put in place to govern people too ignorant to govern themselves. The police arrest people who are stupidly driving drunk, and now I believe we should be able to punish people to ignorant to Reduce, Reuse and Recycle.
I'm ecstatic that you do what you can. Thank you. But being in Texas, I bet you leave your AC on all day in the summer... there are other things you probably do that you don't even think about.
Some people just don't give a damn. Those are the people I'm worried about.
Well you just contradicted yourself. I know you love to point out when people do that, but you seem to love to do it too.
If you really make a difference here you should go after the grocery companies to stop using plastic bags all together.
You want people to conserve on their own, but you wont not use plastic bags unless they make you?
I'm going to, for once, pretend that I agree with you. Global warming doesn't exist.. cough sorry I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Anyway. That doesn't mean that other symptoms of global warming don't exist. Americans produce way too much trash. Our landfills are over flowing. Our oceans are seas of plastic bags and chemicals that the wildlife is suffering and dying. Our air is polluted so much that in some part of the world people can't breathe. The oil reserves are dwindling, and pretty soon we will need alternative resources anyway.
Weather we all die of global warming is futile, if this other stuff persists it will make earth unlivable.
Think WALLE.
Tapout, now darlin'.
Now listen, if we don't enforce that people recycle and whatnot, then many wont. And the effect of people abusing the environment does add up. These are facts. It's only logical that guidelines be set for people to abide by so that global warming can be slowed.
I never use plastic bags, and the other day the checkout lady asked me, "why? it's too late anyway." But no... it's not too late as long as we're still trying.
Regulations are put in place to govern people too ignorant to govern themselves. The police arrest people who are stupidly driving drunk, and now I believe we should be able to punish people to ignorant to Reduce, Reuse and Recycle.
