At the risk of looking like a complete and utter ignoramus, I must ask, have you edited your debate description? Because it looks different to the first time I saw it. Same goes for the title. If not then I suppose it goes to say I have been arguing for a lost cause, cough cough.

You agree with me, yet choose to catagorise your argument as a dispute. Hmmmmm...

You set up a debate, a debate for people to discuss your statement, and all you do is tell people " No, you're all wrong, and if you don't agree with me I will ban you." What kind of imbecile does that? Look, I'm sure there are other sites on the internet for other pompous and grandiloquent people out there. This, however, is a place for people to discuss and exchange ideas on things. Telling other users that they're " in denial" because they don't agree with you is simply idiotic!

I'm glad I haven't been banned. Yet......

Because obviously when a child is growing up, you tell it that a caterpillar is a butterfly, not that one day it will change in to one.

I suppose you're going to tell me that a sperm cell is also a child? In which case you ought never have sex again, or you'll be responsible for the deaths of millions of children.

Ok, well I'll refer back to your question. The egg does belong to the parents yes, who else would it belong to? But, as for it being the 'young' as you so handsomely put it, Uhh..? WRONG. It is NOT the young of the parents, badly worded. There's no point arguing about something if you need to rely on so many books, as you stated instead of actually knowing the answer. Besides, you should remove that picture, as it stands against everything I have just told you about the group of cells not being a child, WHICH IT ISN'T. Perhaps you ought to look up the word denial because you are showing the exact traits, completely bypassing everything I have told you. Me saying one thing as appose to another is not denial, it is a fact. But I see arguing with you is a waste of time as you have nothing of interest to say.

My word how many more times must I drum this in to your skull, a few embryonic cells is NOT a child, can you not see this? It is as less a being as can be!

"Human beings are the same organism at conception that they are at 80 years of age (providing they live that long)"

That's pretty much saying that a fertilised egg cell is a human being.

Obviously the egg belongs to the parents yes, but no, it is not and I make this very clear, not a child.

Because once the Foetus-Baby-Child has reached adulthood, it is in that stage of life until the day it dies. It will get older yes, but it is still a human. An egg on the other hand is not. What characteristics does this thing have for you to call it "A Human"?

It has human genes in it, and is forming in side another human. However this thing is not a human, it will turn in to a human. Would you look at a nut and say " This is a tree" or would you say " This will become a tree"?

Heads up, if you say yes to the first question, you loose.

No, you don't look at an acorn and tell people " this is a tree!" You tell them, with time, this will morph in to a tree!

The same can be said of a fertilised egg. It is not a human being, as much as if you take a bit of cartilage out of someones foot and say " this is a human being."

It will grow in to a human being, but given all the characteristics of a human being, in term, an egg could be any other mammal.