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Debate Score:143
Arguments:130
Total Votes:188
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A child's right to their life should begin when their life does

NOTE: This is not a question about when a child's life begins. 

This is a question about when a child's rights should begin. 

Please understand the difference before you answer.

A child's right to their life should begin when their life does 

Anyone who fails to address the question will be banned  

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Side Score: 75
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Side Score: 68
3 points

I agree with this statement, 100%.

Side: TRUE
3 points

Yes agree that when life begins there is a right to have it preserved. However this right isn't always an absolute right. Depending on the status of the life e.g. if you say that life begins at conception there are clearly, at least, two statuses of life - before and after birth. The right to life should then be better protected after birth, as is currently the legal situation in all countries I believe. Although if life is said to begin before birth that should be at least some protection of it.

A bit sloppily written sorry.

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
2 points

You are wise to anticipate the wide range of ramifications that a 'true' answer might have on this topic. But you really don't need to qualify your answer here. Not to me, you don't.

Side: TRUE
Funor(13) Banned
3 points

Yep at birth.

Side: TRUE
2 points

For the purposes of this debate, I don't care if you believe that a child's rights do not begin until they are able to walk, talk or feed themselves.

The question for this debate is simple.

"Do you agree that a child's rights should begin when their life does?"

Side: TRUE
Funor(13) Banned
1 point

"Do you agree that a child's rights should begin when their life does?"

Yep at birth

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
2 points

Conception is the birth of an organism.

I suspect that what you are confusing the words "birth" and parturition"

The 'birth of an organism' actually takes place when the egg and sperm are united.

'Parturition' is the delivery of an already living organism from the womb.

But hey.... why bring biological facts into it at this point?

Side: TRUE

When the child's brain can develop its own ability to move or process information then absolutely. It would only make sense to allow it.

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
2 points

Okay Lizzie, help me out here.

So, that's when you believe the child's rights begin?

That's when the child's life begins?

Or... both?

Side: TRUE

I believe this is when your rights begin. You life obviously starts when you are fertilized and begin growing. I think that's when you inherit those rights when your brain develops, not fully, but enough to make the body move or process information.

Side: TRUE
2 points

Yes.

It's a good pointed question, and it's interesting to watch as people avoid directly answering it. Someone who murders a pregnant woman can, at least in many states here in the US, be charged with double homicide regardless of what stage of development the fetus is at. So the state has already established interest in protecting the unborn child's right to life.

Since this debates scope is so narrow Try this one

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
2 points

Thank you for your vote, your kind words and for the link to the other debate. I'll check that out soon!

Side: TRUE
2 points

yup, babies and fetuses are just the same human beings.

American culture of objectifying human life used to shocked me, but now I became more open at them. And now, all I can do is to pity the fools

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
1 point

I've received so many hostile responses, I thought you were being sarcastic at first.

Thanks for jumping in. :)

Side: TRUE
Centifolia(1321) Clarified
2 points

Laughable isnt it? The country who declares themselves as bringers of democracy actually supports abortion and says some ridiculous excuses for it

Once Life starts, so does his rights to live begins.

Abortion is just a form of legalized murder. And the worst of its kind. If a mother kill her child so easily, what makes you think she wont do the same to strangers?

Side: TRUE
2 points

Amen! Life begins when the egg cell an sperm cell join togther! Period!

Side: TRUE
2 points

Seeing as life begins at conception, yes I agree with this statement!

Side: TRUE
2 points

I believe a child's right to life does begin when their life does.

Side: TRUE
umaroth(2) Banned
1 point

Yes they should unless they are a female then we enslave them and force them to give birth.

Side: TRUE

Yes it should. But a childs life starts at birth. You notice we wouldn't call a child born three months previous "one year old."

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
1 point

Thank you for your vote.

Again, this debate is not about when their lives begin. I understand that everyone has a different opinion on that.

Side: TRUE
ChadOnSunday(1868) Clarified
1 point

Everyone has different opinions, but my opinion is the one that everyone (including every government in the world) actually uses. Nobody counts any period of time you spend in the womb as part of your "I am __ years old" identifier.

Side: TRUE
1 point

Of course the child's rights should begin when their life does - although I don't believe the life begins when the egg meets the sperm.

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
2 points

You made that look so easy.

I wonder why the other abortion proponents didn't do the same.

By the way, given your answer here.... how would you vote in my other debate?

"Is a fetus the young of its parents?"

Supporting Evidence: Is a fetus the young of its parents? (www.createdebate.com)
Side: TRUE
1 point

I'm confused as to what this question implies. I'll answer it with my opinion as soon as I'm clear on the details.

For this question, when does a child's life begin? At conception? At birth? Could you please clarify this for me?

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
1 point

Like I said on the other side: Even if we can't agree on the exact moment that a child's life begins can we at least agree that it is that moment (whenever it is) that their rights begin? Or, should begin?

Side: TRUE
hannah165(520) Clarified
1 point

Okay then. :)

Give me a second to change my answer...

(The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.)

Side: TRUE
Funor(13) Banned
0 points

Such a troll banning everyone yet again.

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Disputed
1 point

Yeah.. keep telling yourself that I am the troll.

:::sigh:::

Side: FALSE
Firnen Disputed Banned
0 points

because you are the troll banning everyone single person that disagrees with yo

Side: TRUE
-1 points

I can't imagine anyone disagreeing that a child's rights should begin when their life does. What good is a right to a person's life if it doesn't begin when the life does?

SO....

Even if we can't agree on the exact moment that a child's life begins can we at least agree that it is that moment (whenever it is) that their rights begin? Or, should begin?

Side: TRUE
Banana_Slug(845) Disputed Banned
3 points

You are confusing child and fetus .

Side: FALSE
Chuz-Life(497) Disputed
1 point

No. It's clear by the way you have ignored the question.... that YOU are the one who is confused.

Side: TRUE
Funor(13) Banned
1 point

exactly.

Side: FALSE
5 points

Abortion will never be illegal in the US, if it was, then the population would be severely overcrowded. Pollution would go up, and the polar bears would lose their icecaps.

Side: FALSE
Centifolia(1321) Disputed
2 points

sigh

This is the part where the argument "Doesn't mean legal doesn't mean moral"

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
1 point

I think you mean to say that "legal doesn't mean moral."

And, with slavery once being legal as an example... I agree.

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Disputed
1 point

Way to answer a question that was never answered.

Read the damn question next time.

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Disputed
0 points

Also Banned for not addressing the question.

Side: TRUE
Nemesis(12) Clarified
1 point

You should try not to separate two faces of a two dimensional shape with your debate then.

Side: TRUE
Elvira(3446) Banned
4 points

A foetus is a child if blue is yellow.

Side: FALSE
3 points

You are not child until you leave your mother. So fetus has no rights.

Side: FALSE
Chuz-Life(497) Disputed
1 point

Banned.

Read the damn question and explanation before you answer it next time.

Side: TRUE
Chuz-Life(497) Disputed
0 points

Banned.

The question has nothing to do with fetuses or when a child becomes a child.

Side: TRUE
3 points

If life where to begin at say the fetus how can it make its own decisions if it brain hasn't started working properly yet?

Side: FALSE
Chuz-Life(497) Disputed
1 point

Banned.

Read the damn question and explanation before you answer it next time.

Side: TRUE
2 points

A child's right to life should begin when I deem them worthy in the thunderdome.

Side: FALSE
0 points

Finally! An answer that completely illustrates the pro-abortion mentality as a whole!

Side: FALSE
2 points

I'm not replying with what I believe, but rather what I've witnessed. A person has no rights until they are able to start making decisions for themselves. Children don't start making ANY decisions for themselves until they're at least toddlers, and even then it's little things. You can't have rights until you can start living by them, a child can't decide to live by any rights because parents generally do it for them.

Side: FALSE
Centifolia(1321) Disputed
2 points

With your logic, are you saying that mentally disabled folks does not deserve to have rights?

As well as animals?

Side: TRUE
Saurbaby(5590) Disputed
2 points

It depends, are they able to make decisions, because I know high functioning mentally disabled.people who can and some that can't. If you can't make decisions then it's kind of moot.

Side: FALSE
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
0 points

So, to verify that I have this right and that you are not trolling.... are you saying that a child's rights do NOT or should not begin when their life does?

Also, why would you respond with something other than what you believe?

Side: TRUE
Saurbaby(5590) Clarified
2 points

I'm saying they do not.

Because I have never thought about it from this angle before and I'd like some time before I come to a personal belief.

Side: TRUE
Chus-Life Banned
1 point

When you became child and when your life begins are two different things.....

Side: FALSE
Chuz-Life(497) Clarified
1 point

I can appreciate that view.

But that view does not prevent you from answering the question with a NO.

Right?

So, answer NO and give that as your argument or explanation if you like.

Side: TRUE
Funor(13) Banned
1 point

For someone with life in their name you seem not to have much of a life.

Side: FALSE
Chuz-Life(497) Disputed
1 point

Really?

Look who's talking.

Side: TRUE
Firnen Disputed Banned
2 points

You're the one who is always online try getting laid you might loosen up a little then.

Side: FALSE
Funor(13) Banned
1 point

And waiting for that ban Chuz prove everyone who thinks you are a troll right by banning me.

Side: FALSE
Chuz-Life(497) Disputed
1 point

Yeah. Click!

Side: TRUE
Firnen Disputed Banned
1 point

good job troll digging your hole ever deeper.

Side: FALSE
Firnen Banned
1 point

So insecure about yourself that you ban everyone that disagrees with you? Pathetic I pity you.

Side: FALSE
Chuz-Life(497) Disputed
1 point

Banning trolls like you is not a sign of insecurity.

It's more a sign of intelligence.

Side: TRUE
Firnen Banned
1 point

Ban me and prove to everyone you are a troll and nothing but a troll.

Side: FALSE
Chuz-Life(497) Disputed
1 point

Yeah I done that already.

LOL..

You called me the troll.

Side: TRUE