Your points aren't valid. So if you're quitting, fine, but own up to your failure.
You're mistaken about the domestication of dogs. Please refer to my earlier post for a better explination. Dogs are genetically different from wolves. Please check your facts.
I love when you put words in my mouth. It's really not annoying or petty at all. Sarcasm.
I didn't say that the only options are that a dogs would be a pet or it should die. I'm advocating the prevention of animal overpopulation. As I would adovcate that humans use birth control. Not that we should sterilize the poor. But that we and have the mental capacity to understand and take action, and animals do not.
You seem to be advocating we let dogs breed until their numbers are so great that we have packs running in the streets and feeding off livestock. If this is incorrect, I apologize, but I believe that is what you have essentially said.
How is that working out for your country? Is that how you'd like every dog to live? Disease infested? Hungry?
You are really good at putting words in my mouth. That makes you a good liar, not a good debater.
I did not say the options are that an animal be a pet or they die. I only wish to keep the population down so that all animals have homes and vet care. It's the most humane option for everyone, including humans.
What do you suggest?
Oi... If you're not going to accept truth based on facts, then tell me now because I don't want to waste my time.
Dogs, unlike cats, evolved because of humans. Wolves, who were geneticaly less tempermental, trustee humans more and were fed by humans. Those particular animals survived and were anthropologically fitter. Which means that they bred more. So over time, through domestication, those wolves evolved into dogs. Some can survive in the wild, like huskys chows and such. Most can't, like my 12 lb. Poodle.
Secondly, that "hypothetical future" is the present. Animal shelters are overun with animals. So either we spay the animals now to prevent surpopulation, or we kill them in shelters. Your choice.
By suggesting that I want to spay the homeless human population, you admt your own ignorance. I advocate the spaying of all dogs, not just the strays. And by trying to make me seem somehow insensitive to homeless people, you only make yourself look stupid. Thanks.
It's birth control for dogs. It's humane, not immoral.
Okay.... So my dog doesn't love me. Fine.
I'll go put him outside and leave him there. And when he scratches at my door to get back in I'll ignore it.
Because what you're adovocating is that stray dogs have an equal or better qualty of life than those with homes.
Only stray dogs have far shorter lifespans, suffer more painful deaths, go hungry in metropolitan areas, endure lifelong pain from untreated injuries, always have fleas and ticks feeding off of them....
... But hey, they have a healthy sexual appetite. Right?
Edit: I also forgot to mention that you're wrong. Dogs are domesticated. While cats would survive outside without humans just fine, dogs would not.
Humans do not fix animals selfishly.
Animals are spayed because the pet population is so great that all of the animals cannot be cared for.
I don't know if you understand what actually happens when an animal is fixed, but the dog keeps his penis or her vagina. They can still have sex. They aren't mutilated, or harmed.
They certainly aren't concious of their balls to begin with, nor do they care that they are gone.
My dog had balls one day, then the next he had a big plastic cone. All he cared about was the cone and the fact that he had a home with a loving owner.
A lot of animals would have to go without homes and vet care and love of a human if it weren't for spaying and neutering.
It's what's morally right.
It depends on how broadly "culture" is defined. There is the culture of humanity, which is divided into sub cultures, with more sub cultures within them and so on. Until you reach the individual, which could in itself be a seperate culture.
If we all played the same part in the same play, we would all play it differently.
