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Elvira(3446) Clarified
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They don't have rights though.

Elvira(3446) Clarified
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If I was aborted I wouldn't know any difference. I agree people shouldn't leave them late and older foetuses should be protected.

Elvira(3446) Clarified
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Given the opportunity they will all grow up. To love a child is to love their future and always care about them. Love isn't giving them life and not nurturing them properly.

Elvira(3446) Clarified
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Who cares about humans anyway? We're nothing special.

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"A man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate..."

"Biologically, a child (plural: children) is a human between the stages of birth and puberty."

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A foetus is a child if blue is yellow.

Elvira(3446) Clarified
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Aborting in times of need is a far cry from eating many at once for pleasure.

I never even knew there was a controversy over this though... I've never tried roe.

Elvira(3446) Clarified
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Then create an argument to show the foetus is one of them.

Elvira(3446) Clarified
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Generally, if something is a mixture of rare and extremely useful, it is important. The foetus is as yet neither.

Elvira(3446) Clarified
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Important.

Elvira(3446) Clarified
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Show an example of how they are. It's not like foetuses are becoming endangered.

Elvira(3446) Clarified
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I said that before. So?

Elvira(3446) Clarified
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Yes, but does that really matter, other than to the debate topic?

And something that isn't sentient and plays no significant part in the world isn't really that important.

Elvira(3446) Clarified
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It has potential to be sentient.

Elvira(3446) Clarified
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It has potential, and I said I don't care about potential. Everyone has whacky potential threads streaming off everywhere that will never be followed, so what?

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Banned, banned, banned...

Are you not going to listen to other people's opinions?

So a foetus is a human in the very early development stages. So what? It's less complex than a gnat at the moment. Potential doesn't matter if you don't or can't use it. And overpopulation is a huge issue, bigger than global warming.

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People can make their own choices, some people still say that about religion.

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Lesbians! Works both ways, y'know.

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The LORD FROG say's it's wrong to type.

Do you eat shrimp?

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From mock the week

I wish I had a gay dad

You remember when you were a child and everyone was always saying "my dad's gonna beat your dad?"

You could say "My dad's gonna do your dad, and your dad will like it!"

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Hypocrite !

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Unless it's an arranged marriage... ?

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Animals have so many techniques to survive that we couldn't even dream about. Humans are just slowly destroying the world.

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I'm guessing you don't see many animals, or have ever even tried to communicate. They speak in their own ways- pets regard humans as subservient, the wild regard humans as dislocated freaks. Only those halfway inbetween make any attempts at communication to humans, other than warnings or orders.

You don't understand them, and probably never will.

I've seen their conciousness. Don't tell me that they have none.

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They communicate, they have emotions, they care.

Humans are animals, you're not religious- so why do you think we're so much better than they are?

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You're the delusional one. You're saying that they're non sentient, and that they're not even 'others' are they just items to you? Things to be used and abused?

Lions enjoy the kill. It's their fun- the chase, the excitement, et.c. I don't pretend to understand, but those lions in zoos really sulk.

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So we are now intelligent enough to understand the suffering of others, and to lessen our impact on their pain. And I don't think lions would factory farm zebras- it would cause them to die of boredom, maybe the weak or old ones would, though... so they'd de-evolve, like us, into weak lemons, playing 'catch the zebra' computer games and painting their claws.

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Lions do not factory farm zebras (for the x00th time), and that is the only way a lion can live- we have options.

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And meat goes off so quickly, so so much is wasted. Alot of meat is chucked because of fear of bacterial diseases.

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Evil bastard.

And that's the first time I've ever swore at someone online- thus demonstrating my opinions of your stupid ignorant viewpoint.

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Not true, we breed the animals we kill. Only fish are killed wild.

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I LOVE mushrooms, with herbs, or in a risotto...

There are so many alternatives to meat

Quinoa burgers

Soya mince burgers

Soya mince in soup

And they are all delicious

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We've already disturbed the food cycle too much- we're barely part of nature any more.

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I feel sick... how can anyone possibly think that fried corpse is a delicacy? It's weird- completely horrible.

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It's disgusting! It's dead bodies! Wake up, people!

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Religions out of the equation, meat tastes horrible. It reeks of death and the residuals... I hated that my mother made me eat meat until I was fifteen, I still feel sick at the memory.

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To factory farm and abuse, to render that what was once beautiful to a lifeless carcass. Nothing wrong with that idea?

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I am an IB student, and love debating- wet noodle? I don't think so. Almost my entire IB German class is some kind of vegetarian, and they are all amazing and interesting people. Learn what you're talking about-really.

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I've seen all of the following attributes in animals

Hate

Love

Friendship

Fear

Excitement

Care

Logic

Humour

Anger

Distaste

Protectiveness

And more...

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Bears do not factory farm moose, and actually very rarely kill a moose- only eating unnatended young as an adult is fully capable of making micemeat of said bear.

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I study animal communication, and I see sentience. I work with a mini-herd of horses- and I can understand their body language as I can speak english. It is wrong to presume they are stupid because they do not speak our language and do not look like us- that's the same morals that founded the slave trade.

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Science without religion is lame

Ha, maybe science without ethics is cruel, would be better- but it wouldn't be lame- unstopable-definitely. Science and religion are independant from each other, and they always have been.

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It's not only murder, it's mass murder. Opression, slaves, all on the same basis- we're more powerful than you, so we can kill/enslave you because there's nothing you can do about it.

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Physically weakest. Look up de-evolution

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Typo.....................................................................................................sorry.

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Idiot. We're bullies because we're saying murder is unacceptable. Ha! Really get new ideas.

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Our ways of killing animals are unnatural, and unfair. Does the lion hold a slaughterhouse for the zebra? No.

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Yes, it is unfair to carry on killing for some twisted people's pleasure. I can't eat meat, being wicce, but I rally don't think I'd want to.



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